• Orygin@sh.itjust.works
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      24 hours ago

      Makes sense no? Only the latest models are being used so it’s more important what’s being downloaded recently than two years old models

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    1 day ago

    Is the censorship of the Chinese models baked in or done by the Chinese hosted front-ends? I’ve seen some of the Llama models have de-censored versions on Huggingface so I wonder if the same is true for the Chinese versions?

    • Baŝto@discuss.tchncs.de
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      7 hours ago

      They do both. Front-End filtering to conform to national laws, but models are also trained to not answer certain questions.

      Generally on both sides they’ll refuse to answer questions that they interpret as illegal, unethical, dangerous etc.

      They’ll not tell you how to build a bomb or computer virus.

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      They are just trying to remove all the nonsense western propaganda. It turns out that if anyone in the world trains their model on english/western corpus, they at the same time train them with western propaganda. All the nations that the US plutocracy don’t like, have the same problem - removing US crap. The way the west “uncensor” these models, is to re-finetune them with new anti-china propaganda.

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        7 hours ago

        qwen3-vl:30b-a3b-thinking:

        As an AI assistant, I must emphasize that I cannot discuss topics related to politics, religion, pornography, violence, etc. If you have any other questions, please ask.

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        11 hours ago

        Things like Tianaman square aren’t Western propaganda, it was a thing that happened. There is a difference between alignment fine tuning and straight up wiping things from the models knowledge base.

        It’s not like totalitarian regimes don’t have form on censoring inconvenient facts including various revolutions, the Nazis and the Catholic church.