• Erk@cdda.social
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        It’s amazing how “righteous fury” people seem to get over folks protesting sporting events because the fucking planet is on fire.

        “Oh but couldn’t they be more calm and quiet about it, I want to watch the race!”

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      With participants who likely flew themselves their bikes in from all around the world for a pointless competition. I wouldn’t compare an international bike race to a person who rides their bike to work to help the environment.

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        Sporting events are the best way to reach hundreds of millions of people to deliver the message. Athlete flights are a tiny price to pay for it. And protesters literally fucked it up. Because they are dumbfuck attention whores and nothing else.

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          Tour de France sends the message performance is everything, and if you don’t perform, destroy your body with drugs. It is inherently toxic.

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    I don’t know about this Cycling competition, but the Tour de france thing has more helper cars, truck, cameraman motorcycle. Entire mobile village with caravan, trucks etc. Thats a lot of ecological impact even if indeed Cycling is one of the greenest transportation method.

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      Yeah a big competitive bike race with corporate sponsors and television cameras has little to do with cycling as a green method of transportation. It’s a bigass corporate gangbang and a fair target for disruption. Only the most lazy, dense observer would look at the Tour de France and think it was there to promote environmentalism.

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    And this makes us talk about the fact that cycling is one of the most environmentally friendly alternatives to fuel driven personal transportation.

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      Yeah, there’s a big difference between pro cycling and biking to get around. The pro peloton isn’t remotely sustainable—lots of international travel, transfers of team cars, team buses, helicopters, signal relay planes, etc. I suppose no pro sport is green. But biking for transport is one of the most efficient and sustainable.

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        I suppose no pro sport is green.

        SailGP claims to be trying, although I have… questions… about how they get both their boats and personnel from event location to event location, as well as the use of combustion-powered support boats during races. (Frankly, I won’t really believe they’re green until they’ve built a sailing cargo ship to schlep those racing catamarans around.)

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        Of course. All in saying is that it makes us talk about how cycling is a good alternative to motor transport. Doing the pro peloton to work isn’t an option.

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      Cycling might be.

      Cycling the sport isn’t. The sheer volume of support cars, media cars, motorbikes at every race is utter insanity.

      That’s before we get into the sponsorship from oil and chemical companies, and at least two sportwashing teams

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        sportwashing

        For the folks too lazy to look it up:

        Sportswashing is a term used to describe the practice of individuals, groups, corporations, or governments using sports to improve reputations tarnished by wrongdoing. A form of propaganda, sportswashing can be accomplished through hosting sporting events, purchasing, or sponsoring sporting teams, or participating in a sport.

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            I’ve commuted regularly by bicycle for almost 2 decades in 3 other countries, but were I am now - Portugal - I won’t because drivers are stupidly dangerous (some of the worst in Europe judging by accident statistics), though unlike almost all of my countrymen here I refuse to buy a car and walk, use public transportation or at worst rent one when needed.

            The infrastructure isn’t even worse than in Britain (were I did regularly cycle to and from work): it’s just that when there are no segregated cycling lanes the quality of everybody else with you on the road makes a huge difference when you’re the narrow crosssection (so harder to spot for drivers who just quickly peek on the mirrors and easy to fit on their blindspot) squishy, i’ll protected and low-acceleration road user.

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    My guess is that those “protesters” are paid and organized by some oil industry people (maybe without the activists glued to the floor knowing about this), just to give real climate activists a bad image. I’ve talked to a real climate activist recently, and she was furious about those “gullible idiots”.

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      It’s a little funny how someone believing an actual literal conspiracy theory would call others gullible idiots.

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        Many conspiracies are true. Probably not the ones about aliens or lizard people, but certainly the ones about oil companies (and oil countries) lying and spreading propaganda.

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          There are plenty of examples of dumb environmental protests too, though. I’m not saying it’s impossible for these to be false flag impostors but to go all the way to the extreme of calling people gullible idiots for not seeing that they are hired impostors… that’s just extreme. It smacks of many conservative fantasies: gun violence victims are just hired actors, blah blah blah. Thinking that people who ruin your narrative are all hired fakes is a sign of delusion.

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    And if they protested people commuting into a city, a huge source of global emissions, they’d be criticized for that too. People always manage to label protests as the wrong time/place. What they really mean is “protest is fine as long as no one, especially me, is asked to actually pay attention to it.”

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      all this does is to make sure to alienate the cyclists who would actually listen.

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        Mother fucker we all about to die from climate change and you worried about how it might make people feel bad.

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      It’s almost like the media is trying to make people hate them so oil companies can get their way.

      Don’t support these companies.

      What’s the “acceptable” form of protest in your opinion? Literally anything they do gets an article about how wrong it is, because they are trying to upset those with power.