A list of recent hostile moves by #Google’s #Chrome team;

handy for sharing with your entourage, to explain why they should stop using #Chromium / #GoogleChrome and use #Firefox or #Epiphany as their main #web #browser :

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/googles-web-integrity-api-sounds-like-drm-for-the-web/

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    Reformatting body to be readable:

    A list of recent hostile moves by #Google’s #Chrome team; handy for sharing with your entourage, to explain why they should stop using #Chromium / #GoogleChrome and use #Firefox or #Epiphany as their main #web #browser :

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    I switched when I got tired of not having ad blockers on mobile. Best decision ever. The Internet can be unusable without it.

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        I do most browsing on Firefox, but there are some web developers who seem to totally ignore anything but Chrome. Like I sometimes think a site is broken until I try it in Chrome. Anyone else have this issue and have a solution other than using Chrome?

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    I’ve been waiting for a sign to switch and I think this is it. A few questions though.

    • Does Firefox for Android have tab groups like Chrome for Android?
    • Is Firefox Pocket like Chrome’s reading list? My first impression of Pocket was that it was a half-baked feature only really meant to serve ads.
    • https://ishoudinireadyyet.com/
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      I haven’t used Chrome’s reading list feature, since I don’t use chrome, but they are competing “read it later” product, so should function vaguely similarly.

      Unfortunately I think your impression of Pocket is basically correct, it hasn’t received any meaningful updates since Mozilla bought it, and is very underwhelming product, it’s still baffling for example that Pocket (at least as a browser plugin) uses a different (and generally worse) reading view from the Firefox “reading mode.”

      That being said I haven’t found any “read it later” products I’ve actually liked using… (I switched to Wallabag after I quit using Pocket, but have used readability, instapaper, and the reading list feature of “The Old Reader”), so I just quit using the product category entirely, my replacement is “send to device” feature of Firefox so I can find articles on one device and send them to another to either view on a bigger screen, or a mobile screen. (I have a desktop, laptop, tablet and a phone… so this is very useful)

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      I can’t answer any of these. I don’t have the knowledge. I am not using Firefox on mobile, only on desktop. (opera mobile user)

      However what I can say is, you need to make compromises on some of your convenience to free yourself from a user hostile company’s software, or forks of it which strongholds you to their whims. Silicon Valley is trying to profit against your best interests.

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        Well I was planning to switch anyway for the reasons you just explained, so further moral rhetoric is wasted on me. I’m only asking those who do have knowledge in order to help ease the transition.

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    Never used Chrome, and strongly suggest to other people not to use Chrome. However, I’ve not had the hate for chromium browsers (so far, the killing of extensions might drive me away) - I’ve really enjoyed Vivaldi for a lot more features and having the engine that works on websites (yes this sucks). My mom OTOH is a Firefox person, and I just had to help her get onto her insurance website - she had tech support on the phone, and Firefox just would not let her set a password and just kept looping and using up the reset link. Finally I tried in Vivaldi (Chromium) and it worked first try. Of course, I’ve had the same experience in the opposite direction. So I have to keep using both.

    Also, Vivaldi anyway has a much better UI IMHO for what I want than Firefox does, and is faster. As an IT person, I much prefer semantic versioning which Vivaldi also has.

    Anyway, at this point Chromium is like IE was - you can’t not have access to your health insurance website, and they don’t apparently test in Firefox so it doesn’t work. You can’t drop your provider cause you don’t pick it, your work does. The upshot of Chromium is that there are rebuilds and it runs on other platforms than Windows - so… there’s that at least.

    Honestly, I’d like to see someone fork Chromium and keep web extensions etc, but no one wants to write a browser engine anymore - even Vivaldi, which was the old Opera team that wrote 2 browser engines over the history of the browser through v12 - can’t afford to make their own engine. What I don’t get is why so many browser makers have chosen chromium vs gecko - almost no one wraps gecko in the last 10 years. (Maybe Firefox is different now? I know it in some ways started getting crappy wrt extensions back in v28? whenever Pale Moon forked.)