Note that these are just quotes from the disastrous AMA he held last week, not new comments that have been made.
and here i was, truly believing that they would reconsider. as of right now ~4000 of the planned 6600 subs have gone private, if that isn’t enough then oh well
Bear in mind this article is from a couple days ago right after the AMA happened and before subreddits started closing.
oh okay. so i guess its still to be decided then?
Yes. This isn’t breaking anything we didn’t know from the AMA and previous events.
And if nothing changes, I would imagine a new, possibly more severe protest to be organized.
I’m hoping that a lot of the subreddits that has gone dark would remain dark indefinitely. Granted, the Reddit admins might try to replace the mods on a lot of the subreddits - but at that point the community may not be the same anymore.
there are a few, such as r/196, but most are only doing it for 48 hours unfortunately.
I doubt any amount would change their minds. They want 3rd party dead.
Make that 4500
theres a new one going private every like 5 seconds, and the list of how many are supposed to keeps growing. up to nearly 7k as of rn, so thats 400 more in the past 30 mins
There (likely) won’t be any reconsideration. Reddit’s concern right now isn’t the health of its communities. They’re focused on taking the ball of data they’re sitting on and selling it to AI platforms while the AI gold rush is still happening.
I don’t think that makes sense as an explanation for killing off 3PA/API access. 3PAs would increase user base, and so collection of data, by virtue of providing more channels by which users can contribute and improving the experience for those people would likely increase their engagement. The mod tools that make use of the API would also help with curating that data, which increases its value to an AI consumer.
Cheap API access was letting the AI platforms pull Reddit data directly via API. That’s why the “fix” was making API access expensive, so that buying the data from Reddit instead becomes the more cost-effective solution.
Reddit’s not (as) worried about gathering more data to sell, they’re worried about selling the years of data they already have.
But charging over a million dollars a month instead makes little sense.
We’re sticking to the Fediverse as well so
Honestly, a 3 day, partial shutdown is less than 1% percent of their annual online time. The strike has got to last much longer imo
I am super happy about the subs going permanently dark
Just saw on Reddit there are 300+ subs going dark indefinitely. That is what needs to happen. Sure Reddit could come in and find new mods but damn might end up being a decent amount of work/chaos. They should screw up their automods and delete the backup logs. Still probably wouldn’t be that hard for an admin to rollback but still the more pain the better.
It’s actually more like 8000+ at this point.
Who would they even find to moderate subs with substandard tools free of charge? Especially right on the heels of this fiasco. Maybe they’ll put some bots in charge and just allow pretty much unfiltered moderation in those subreddits.
They’re just reporting on the AMA, they don’t know anything we don’t already know.
That article is terrible, incidentally. It didn’t cover what really happened with the Apollo dev and just parroted spez’s talking points as facts.
Also, fuck u/spez.
What does reddit plan to do with all these communities going dark?
They should remain dark until changes are made. A strike with an end date is pointless.
Chatted with the moderator teams for the subs I am a part of. Two of them agreed we’ll go dark indefinitely, and we have joined in on that via ModCoord’s post.
The largest with just under 1m users is still thinking about it, but I’m fighting for it.
We need to push them where it hurts: active users for their ads to be used on.
Hopefully you don’t have any rogue mods. Apprently r/adviceanimals got the head mod replced by someone that seems to be more inline with the admins-reddit. (u/legweed -> u/CedarWolf)
We’re good teams, but I really hope not. A couple apathetic mods in each, but they seem content to follow the masses.
Its a game of trying to not log in to reddit (because every click they don’t get is a win for us), and needing to in order to discuss all this nonsense.
I just hope enough subs stay dark and get on board with the choice to go indefinitely.
Well. It’s his right then.
It’s also our right to walk out of the crumbling house. Unlike FB and Twitter which still has core (and over reaching) followers that still remain there, Reddit may face a slow burning death.
Oh well, it’s a fun ride. Goodbye to the communities and hobbyists.
As sad as I am to see it go, I’m excited to be a part of what’s next!
This was always the goal, I’m just glad that we have the option to host federated communities like this now
