This is the humanless future, hurray!

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    I was curious how current LLMs might handle this with proper instructions, so I asked chatGPT this: “What can you tell me about this Reddit post? Would you write a news article about this? Analyze the trustworthiness of this information:” and pasted the text from the post. Here’s a part of its reply:

    This Reddit post appears to be discussing updates in the context of […] Hearthstone and World of Warcraft. However, there are several factual inaccuracies which raises questions about the trustworthiness of the post:

    1. Hearthstone was first released in 2014, not 1994. This error may be a typo or a misunderstanding by the user.
    1. Glorbo does not appear to be a known character in either the Hearthstone or World of Warcraft universe […]
    1. Chen Stormstout is a known character from the Warcraft universe, but the claim about him being the end boss of a new version of Karazhan doesn’t match with any known information […]
    1. Dragonflight is not known as a video game developer or associated term in the context of Hearthstone or World of Warcraft […]

    Given these points, it seems this post might be either a joke, speculation, or misinformation. […] So I’d recommend taking this information with a grain of caution and verify it from reliable sources.

    […] I would caution against using the information in this post for a news article due to the factual inaccuracies and lack of verifiable sources. Good journalism relies on accuracy, fact-checking, and use of reliable sources. This Reddit post contains several claims that contradict established knowledge, and without further verification from reliable, official sources (like game developers or official news releases), it would not be advisable to use this information in a news article.

    So it’s not even an issue with current models, just bad setup. An autoGPT with several fact-checking questions added in can easily filter this stuff.

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        So I tried it on this BBC article (a current top story), and this /r/Hearthstone post. It did pretty well. I won’t copy-paste the whole reply, but here are some excerpts:

        The post you’ve shared describes a series of recent climate records related to temperature, ocean heat, and Antarctic sea ice, and their concerning implications. […] The trustworthiness of this information depends on the credibility of the sources cited and the accuracy of the climate records mentioned. Given that these are attributed to credible individuals and institutions like the UN, they likely hold a high degree of trustworthiness. […] A pattern of increasing intensity and frequency of extreme weather events is consistent with what scientists expect from climate change. […] However, for a comprehensive analysis, it would be prudent to cross-check this information with authoritative climate research bodies, like the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), or National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

        The post you’ve shared appears to be an announcement about an upcoming expansion for Hearthstone. […] The new expansion, named “Legendary Titans and Keepers,” seems to introduce some new gameplay elements, including the “Titan” keyword and “Forge” keyword. Assessing the trustworthiness of this information can be tricky without an official source. Ideally, the announcement should be verified on Blizzard Entertainment’s official website or through their official social media channels. The details mentioned, such as the gameplay mechanics for the new Titan and Keeper cards, as well as the new Forge keyword, are specific and elaborate, which might lend some credibility to the post. […] If this information came from an official announcement from Blizzard Entertainment or a reliable insider, it would be newsworthy content for audiences interested in Hearthstone or gaming in general.

        So it guessed correctly in both cases and suggested where to fact-check the info to be sure.

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        Did you intend to paste or attach something? Your comment doesn’t show anything on kbin besides that one sentence.

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    It’s the humanless present. The AIs will get better in the future, presumably learning the things that human journalists have known for centuries - verify your sources.

    For now, though, this was a fun gag.

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      Could a language model actually independently discern if a source is trustworthy? Seems that’s something difficult to determine when it comes to possible leaks. The kinds of AIs that we have today can’t really conceptualize a world outside the texts they process, they can only check based on other texts and user input.

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        It would need to be told to do so, of course. I can think of a couple of approaches. You could have it use a database to track the identities of information sources, so the AI would know whether it was coming from new or well-established sources. It could check to see if the news is appearing in other sources. A lot of this isn’t strictly large-language-model-based capability, but it would be using LLMs to interpret its inputs.

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          Analysis is social media through the lens of tracking source reliability would be damned useful without AI and if that could easily be done I think it would already be. I’ve thought about this for about five years, thinking we could track bots and disinformation based on the patterns of who promotes/upvotes it, but it’s beyond my meager means.

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            I think certain places (reddit?) Have been using algorithms to find and stamp out bots/vote manipulation for quite a while. I remember at least one major wave of bans for smurfed accounts participating in manipulation.

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            Human journalists already do this, though. All I’m suggesting is that these automated journalists should do likewise. That clearly wasn’t the case in this particular instance.

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        I mean, chatGPT with its knowledge cutoff and no internet connection figured it out. See my comment below, I asked it and posted its response.

        The guys who run that news website just didn’t include any checks in their algorithm. It doesn’t seem like an LLM problem at this point. A properly set up AutoGPT with an ability to look stuff up online would have no problem sorting though and fact-checking posts to decide which ones to use for an article.

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        The kinds of AIs that we have today can’t really conceptualize a world outside the texts they process

        The LLMs we have today process “tokens”, which can represent anything. That they happen to look “more intelligent” to humans when used as “text goes in, text comes out”, is a purely human bias, not a limitation of the AI.

        Don’t be mistaken, LLMs can process, conceptualize, and output, anything that can be represented with a token, including the initial, intermediary, or final states of other AIs, for which even humans lack a token/word. That’s how multimodal AIs with plugins work right now.

        Using text (with or without emojis) as an external input/output system, is just a way to interact with humans, other AIs designed to input/output text, and to feedback (reflect) on themselves.

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    Reading the Reddit thread was worthwhile, if only for this. Yep, a Redditor tricked IMDB into listing them as the voice actor for Glorbo.

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    The article is great. The top comment under the article caught my eye:
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    but at least I’m real…last I checked.
    That’s very suspicious since that is exactly what I would expect a bot to write.

    Point of order: in order for a bot to write that text, it would need to have been already written by someone else. So if a bot didn’t write it before, it might the next time.

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      That’s not entirely accurate. AI can put together novel sentences that have never been written before. Everything is written one token at a time so being written before makes it more likely (as you would expect) but it absolutely does not preclude novel combinations.

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    I swear Collider is the worst, it’s all just ten best/worst [whatever], according to reddit. I absolutely hate that Google continues to include them in their news feed.